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		<description><![CDATA[[ I was working on a blog post about the Women In Open Source roundtable I ran, and then Brenda Wallace tweeted: "it seems reasonably easy 2 get women involved in opensource documentation, ui design, and even management. Why is it hard 2 get women coding?" Here's my longer response, mostly with ideas I got [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[ I was working on a blog post about the Women In Open Source roundtable I ran, and then <a href="http://coffee.geek.nz/">Brenda Wallace</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/br3nda/statuses/781116369">tweeted</a>: "it seems reasonably easy 2 get women involved in opensource documentation, ui design, and even management. Why is it hard 2 get women coding?"  Here's my longer response, mostly with ideas I got from the roundtable. ]</p>
<p>I ran a panel discussion about Women in Open Source at the <a href="http://www.postgresqlconference.org">PostgreSQL Conference East</a> (last weekend). I talked about all the conference events that I&#8217;d seen in the last 1-2 years specific to women, and a pair of researchers talked about communication patterns among women on the KDE women&#8217;s list. Then we had a 2 hour discussion with the 10 people in attendance. </p>
<p>Three issues that stuck with me from the discussion were: </p>
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<p>* Mentoring: Women do not often receive the same type of mentorship that men receive. This has two important consequences: women don&#8217;t feel as connected to the community  (don&#8217;t learn cultural norms, don&#8217;t receive favors, don&#8217;t get as much praise or reward for work), and women don&#8217;t see clear pathways to greater responsibility or prestige (roles are not obvious unless you&#8217;re &#8220;in the know&#8221;, few role models).  </p>
<p>* Self-efficacy: Women consistently rate themselves as far less capable than they prove themselves to be. Example: survey of Computer Science undergrads showed that women rated their preparedness at an average of 0%, while men rated their knowledge and prep around 60-70% &#8212; even though GRADES proved that the women had just as much ability/knowledge (these 0% folks were getting As and Bs in courses).  The UMD researchers said that self-efficacy has been strongly correlated with success in achieving goals.</p>
<p>* Quality of Life: some coding jobs are low prestige, require superhuman hours and aren&#8217;t friendly to women (or men) with children. We didn&#8217;t have any research to back this up, but there was a lot of speculation that women 25-45 would not be excited to come back to programming after having children because of the life/work balance problems.</p>
<p>Some or all of these issues can probably be linked to the experience of other minority groups.</p>
<p>As far as &#8220;what we can do&#8221; &#8212; I think we need to work environments more humane and accepting of people who have children.  There&#8217;s a bit of anti-child culture in some high tech circles, and my personal feeling is that this will continue to turn women away. </p>
<p>I also think we need more mentorship!  Women need to mentor women, and men need to mentor women. I think training a group of men on how to mentor women would be greatly beneficial &#8212; especially if those men-mentors got some kind of seal of approval at the end of their mentorship bootcamp. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s always a tension when men mentor women, and maybe if it was a little more organized and some rules were set &#8212; like no using the mentorship program as a personal dating service &#8212; it might work better than the ad hoc mentorship stuff we have right now. </p>
<p>Less formal than GSOC, but more formal than just contacting people on a mailing list.</p>


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<li><a href='http://www.chesnok.com/daily/2009/04/27/what-works-getting-more-women-involved-in-open-source/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: What works? Getting more women involved in open source.'>What works? Getting more women involved in open source.</a></li>
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