{"id":272,"date":"2008-04-02T08:30:55","date_gmt":"2008-04-02T16:30:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.chesnok.com\/daily\/2008\/04\/02\/women-who-code-where-are-they\/"},"modified":"2012-03-26T02:56:31","modified_gmt":"2012-03-26T10:56:31","slug":"women-who-code-where-are-they","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.chesnok.com\/daily\/2008\/04\/02\/women-who-code-where-are-they\/","title":{"rendered":"Women Who Code &#8211; where are they?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[ I was working on a blog post about the Women In Open Source roundtable I ran, and then <a href=\"http:\/\/coffee.geek.nz\/\">Brenda Wallace<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/br3nda\/statuses\/781116369\">tweeted<\/a>: &#8220;it seems reasonably easy 2 get women involved in opensource documentation, ui design, and even management. Why is it hard 2 get women coding?&#8221;  Here&#8217;s my longer response, mostly with ideas I got from the roundtable. ]<\/p>\n<p>I ran a panel discussion about Women in Open Source at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.postgresqlconference.org\">PostgreSQL Conference East<\/a> (last weekend). I talked about all the conference events that I&#8217;d seen in the last 1-2 years specific to women, and a pair of researchers talked about communication patterns among women on the KDE women&#8217;s list. Then we had a 2 hour discussion with the 10 people in attendance. <\/p>\n<p>Three issues that stuck with me from the discussion were: <\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>* Mentoring: Women do not often receive the same type of mentorship that men receive. This has two important consequences: women don&#8217;t feel as connected to the community  (don&#8217;t learn cultural norms, don&#8217;t receive favors, don&#8217;t get as much praise or reward for work), and women don&#8217;t see clear pathways to greater responsibility or prestige (roles are not obvious unless you&#8217;re &#8220;in the know&#8221;, few role models).  <\/p>\n<p>* Self-efficacy: Women consistently rate themselves as far less capable than they prove themselves to be. Example: survey of Computer Science undergrads showed that women rated their preparedness at an average of 0%, while men rated their knowledge and prep around 60-70% &#8212; even though GRADES proved that the women had just as much ability\/knowledge (these 0% folks were getting As and Bs in courses).  The UMD researchers said that self-efficacy has been strongly correlated with success in achieving goals.<\/p>\n<p>* Quality of Life: some coding jobs are low prestige, require superhuman hours and aren&#8217;t friendly to women (or men) with children. We didn&#8217;t have any research to back this up, but there was a lot of speculation that women 25-45 would not be excited to come back to programming after having children because of the life\/work balance problems.<\/p>\n<p>Some or all of these issues can probably be linked to the experience of other minority groups.<\/p>\n<p>As far as &#8220;what we can do&#8221; &#8212; I think we need to work environments more humane and accepting of people who have children.  There&#8217;s a bit of anti-child culture in some high tech circles, and my personal feeling is that this will continue to turn women away. <\/p>\n<p>I also think we need more mentorship!  Women need to mentor women, and men need to mentor women. I think training a group of men on how to mentor women would be greatly beneficial &#8212; especially if those men-mentors got some kind of seal of approval at the end of their mentorship bootcamp. <\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s always a tension when men mentor women, and maybe if it was a little more organized and some rules were set &#8212; like no using the mentorship program as a personal dating service &#8212; it might work better than the ad hoc mentorship stuff we have right now. <\/p>\n<p>Less formal than GSOC, but more formal than just contacting people on a mailing list.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[ I was working on a blog post about the Women In Open Source roundtable I ran, and then Brenda Wallace tweeted: &#8220;it seems reasonably easy 2 get women involved in opensource documentation, ui design, and even management. Why is &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.chesnok.com\/daily\/2008\/04\/02\/women-who-code-where-are-they\/\">Continue reading &rarr;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,23,30,97,9,36,13],"tags":[69,68,66,621,65,647,67,70,640],"class_list":["post-272","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gender","category-open-source","category-pgconference","category-postgres","category-postgresql","category-women","category-womenintech","tag-brenda-wallace","tag-coding","tag-foss","tag-gender","tag-mentorship","tag-postgres","tag-software","tag-twitterpolls","tag-women"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.chesnok.com\/daily\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/272","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.chesnok.com\/daily\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.chesnok.com\/daily\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.chesnok.com\/daily\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.chesnok.com\/daily\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=272"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.chesnok.com\/daily\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/272\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4037,"href":"https:\/\/www.chesnok.com\/daily\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/272\/revisions\/4037"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.chesnok.com\/daily\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=272"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.chesnok.com\/daily\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=272"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.chesnok.com\/daily\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=272"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}